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Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:46 am

The final installment of this round of the Corrie Class Trip. Thanks to the very few who have stuck it out throughout, greatly appreciated! This one has been fun.
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Himala (1982, Ishmael Bernal)
I know this is a bit longer (at 125 minutes) than most of the films we've seen for this round, but I encourage you to give it a go because this one is supposed to be worth it. It is considered one of, if not the best Filipino film of all time by both critics and audiences. I've heard about it from pinoy friends on other forums but I've never seen anyone talk about it here, nor does it come up in trends. I'd like to end the Class Trip on a high note and hopefully this film follows through. Let's watch it by Sunday August 31st.
Himala has won numerous awards and distinctions in the Philippines and abroad, including Best Picture from the 1982 Metro Manila Film Festival and the 1983 Catholic Mass Media Awards.

At the Manila Film Festival, the movie swept 9 of the 11 awards available. Aunor won the Best Actress trophy for her role in the film at the December local film festival, and was nominated for other top acting awards in the Philippines. She was nominated for Best Actress at the 33rd Berlin International Film Festival, where Himala vied in the prestigious competition for the Golden Bear Award.[13] The film was personally handpicked by Festival Director Moritz de Hadeln in the official selection.

The film's international honors also included the Bronze Hugo prize at the 1983 Chicago International Film Festival; it received a special religious citation in the 1983 Asia-Pacific Film Festival held in Taipei, Taiwan; and it was selected as the opening film for the 1983 Manila International Film Festival.

Himala was the choice of the Filipino film critics' society Manunuri ng Pelikulang Pilipino as one of the ten best films of the 1980s. In 2002, the same critics' group named Himala one of the best Filipino movies for the last three decades, from 1970 - 1999.

Bernal, the film's director, was conferred the National Artist Award posthumously (he died in 1996). His body of work was accorded the high recognition of Gawad CCP para sa Sining in 1990, and the Centennial Honors for the Arts, on the occasion of the 100th anniversary of the Philippine Declaration of Independence and Nationhood in 1998.

Himala was the only Filipino film that made it to the shortlist of the Best Asian Films of All Time chosen by CNN International in 2008.[14][15] It was cited for its "austere camera work, haunting score and accomplished performances [that] sensitively portray the harsh social and cultural conditions that people in the third world endure."
#1 - The Worthless (1982, Mika Kaurismäki, Finland) | snapper
#2 - Shopping for Fangs (1997, Quentin Lee and Justin Lin, USA) | takeshi
#3 - The Heart of the Wise Lives in the House of Sorrow (2009, Marin Malešević, Serbia) | Shieldmaiden
#4 - The Forbidden Quest (1993, Peter Delpeut, Netherlands) | kopello
#5 - São Bernardo (1972, Leon Hirszman, Brazil) | Bandy Greensacks
#6 - Evdokia (1971, Alexis Damianos, Greece) | Epistemophobia
#7 - The Ball at the Anjō House (1947, Kōzaburō Yoshimura, Japan) | snapper
#8 - Sérail (1976, Eduardo de Gregorio, France) | takeshi
#9 - Passport for a Corpse (1962, Mario Gariazzo, Italy) | JediMoonShyne
#10 - Aksuat (1997, Serik Aprimov, Kazakhstan) | Shieldmaiden
#11 - Dangerously Excited (2011, Koo, South Korea) | wigwam
#12 - Himala (1982, Ishmael Bernal, Philippines) | snapper

Past Trips, Edition 1.0:

#1 - Distant Journey (1949, Alfréd Radok, Czechoslovakia) | snapper
#2 - Nanami: The Inferno of First Love (1968, Susumu Hani, Japan) | Das
#3 - The Policewoman (2003, Joaquim Sapinho, Portugal) | charulata
#4 - Freeze, Die, Come to Life! (1989, Vitali Kanevsky, USSR) | Bandy Greensacks
#5 - The Perfume of the Lady in Black (1974, Francesco Barilli, Italy) | Trip
#6 - Weddings and Babies (1958, Morris Engel, USA) | snapper
#7 - The Man with Three Coffins (1987, Lee Jang-ho, South Korea) | Notes from Underground
#8 - Malina (1991, Werner Schroeter, Germany) | Shieldmaiden
#9 - Bad Luck (1960, Andrzej Munk, Poland) | B-Side
#10 - The Girl with the Suitcase (1961, Valerio Zurlini, Italy) | JediMoonShyne
#11 - The Engagement of Anna (1972, Pantelis Voulgaris, Greece) | BandyGreensacks
#12 - Our Neighbor, Miss Yae (1934. Yasujirō Shimazu, Japan) | snapper
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Post by snapper » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:56 am

my rankings of the Class Trip flicks I've seen so far:

1. Nanami: The Inferno of First Love
2. The Engagement of Anna
3. Freeze, Die, Come to Life!
4. The Ball at the Anjō House
5. São Bernardo
6. Our Neighbour, Miss Yae
7. Shopping for Fangs
8. Passport for a Corpse
9. Himala
10. Weddings and Babies
11. Distant Journey
12. Sérail
13. Evdokia
14. The Forbidden Quest
15. Aksuat
16. The Perfume of the Lady in Black
17. The Worthless
18. Dangerously Excited
19. The Man with Three Coffins
20. The Policewoman
21. The Heart of the Wise Lives in the House of Sorrow

Not yet seen:
Bad Luck
Malina
The Girl with the Suitcase
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by snapper » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:28 am

who is in
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by MrCarmady » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:01 am

i've been promising and promising, and this is my last chance to deliver, so that if and when the threequel comes around, i can choose. when are we meant to watch it by?
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by MrCarmady » Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:04 am

...it seems to have no english subs, though?
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by snapper » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:29 pm

by next weekend?

ugh SHIT i swore this had subs. nevermind i'll change it tomorrow when i'm awake and can think of something good seeming
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by Beau » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:02 pm

It's very good. Pity y'all can't watch it, though.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Fri Aug 22, 2014 3:35 pm

Trust snapper. :P
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Post by roujin » Fri Aug 22, 2014 5:52 pm

Learn spanish lol
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Rosaura at 10 O'Clock

Post by snapper » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:17 am

Beau wrote:It's very good. Pity y'all can't watch it, though.
mAKE SUBS WHY DONTCHA
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Sat Aug 23, 2014 1:17 am

film has been changed. do it to it!
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:15 am

I'm in. :)
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Post by snapper » Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:30 am

keep signing up dudes
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Mon Sep 01, 2014 7:46 pm

I saw this - did anyone else?
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* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by Shieldmaiden » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:41 pm

snapper wrote:I saw this - did anyone else?
I'm halfway through. I'll check in tonight with thoughts.
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:39 pm

So, I didn't think much to this one, but that whole final sequence does stand out: the fact that Elsa had barely spoken throughout, and yet when she does it is to dramatically debunk everything we have come to associate her with. I guess the film is about faith and faithlessness; about the hysteria of the former, which can then be neatly applied to the contemporary idea of the celebrity. The actress who plays Elsa is actually one of the most famous in the Philippines with something of a cult following, so her performance could also be seen as self-reflexive, which I like.

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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

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Was this really only two hours long? Seemed double that. It's well acted and very competently made, but its intended epic-ness clashes with the goofy comedy elements, like the bumbling boyfriends and the cigarette "trick." But, then there's the hours of wailing to balance it out. I guess I don't really 'get' the message. Mass hysteria is never a good thing, surely, and that seems to be where it's going, until the sentimental gloss at the very end. And the priest saying, "Don't let the truth blind us," ugh.
What aspiring director thinks his career would be made with the unveiling of real rape footage (when he'd made no attempt to stop the attack)? All he could think while that was going on was, "Fraud!" and "Scoop!"? Yikes.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:30 pm

That was uncharacteristically harsh, haha. I'm sick, though. Maybe that tainted it somewhat?
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Post by JediMoonShyne » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:42 pm

Yeah, the rape thing was odd.

That was harsh of you! I liked it. :D
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:13 pm

Ha. :)

I watched 11 of the 12 this round. Here's my uncharacteristically harsh ranking:

1 São Bernardo
2 Evdokia
3 The Worthless
4 Shopping for Fangs
5 The Heart of the Wise Lives in the House of Sorrow
6 Passport for a Corpse
7 Dangerously Excited
8 The Ball at the Anjō House
9 Aksuat
10 Himala
11 The Forbidden Quest
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:22 pm

sorry I didn't wrte about this yet, I liked parts of it but as Shieldmaiden said GOD it drags, and its sociopolitical commentary is too... ordinary and expected I guess to sustain interest across the first two acts. Religion + poverty = danger! And the film isn't formally interesting enough to make such a rudimentary message pop (although the score was good). Nora Aunor is clearly a terrific actress and you want to keep returning to her but she's sidelined to the point that it is almost a supporting role.

That being said, I'd recommend this for the final setpiece which is worth the run-up, almost. The chaos and horror is balanced really cynically against a kind of cruel humour, and I loved that the film seemed to wake up and show some awareness of itself. It's really a terrific scene, and it makes you examine the filmmaker character in a new light as a symbol of neocolonialist forces I guess. Clever.

I liked the actress who played the prostitute, too, but her character seemed tacked-on.
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** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Sat Sep 06, 2014 10:25 pm

I got the impression that Elsa had experienced a real miracle, but realised what the hysteria was doing to the people of the village, who were becoming both exploited and exploiters, often doing it to themselves (the mother of the dead son, yikes) so changed her message as an effort to save them. but i'm not sure and i like the ambiguity

Pinoy film has SUCH a huge cult domestically, but I haven't liked too much of what I've seen so far. All the Big Ones seem to be fairly standard melodramas with flashes of thematic insight. I liked Kinatay lots though
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by Shieldmaiden » Sun Sep 07, 2014 1:31 am

snapper wrote:I got the impression that Elsa had experienced a real miracle, but realised what the hysteria was doing to the people of the village, who were becoming both exploited and exploiters, often doing it to themselves (the mother of the dead son, yikes) so changed her message as an effort to save them. but i'm not sure and i like the ambiguity
Yeah, that's about what I thought too. It's also true that the more time passes, the less sure you may feel about whether something was 'in your head' or not.
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Re: Corrie Class Trip #12: Himala

Post by snapper » Fri May 05, 2017 1:50 pm

Now that I've seen all the films we did, I'd rank them so:

Masterpiece
1. Nanami: The Inferno of First Love (Hani)

Great
2. The Engagement of Anna (Voulgaris)
3. Freeze, Die, Come to Life! (Kanevsky)
4. Bad Luck (Munk)
5. Our Neighbour, Miss Yae (Shimazu)
6. São Bernardo (Hirszman)
7. The Ball at the Anjō House (Yoshimura)
8. Shopping for Fangs (Lee & Lin)
9. Girl with a Suitcase (Zurlini)

Good
10. Passport for a Corpse (Gariazzo)
11. Himala (Bernal)
12. Distant Journey (Radok)
13. Evdokia (Damianos)
14. Weddings and Babies (Engel)

Poor
15. Sérail (de Gregorio)
16. The Worthless (Kaurismäki)
17. The Perfume of the Lady in Black (Barilli)
18. The Forbidden Quest (Delpeut)
19. Malina (Schroeter)
20. The Man with Three Coffins (Lee)
21. Aksuat (Aprimov)

Bad
22. Dangerously Excited (Koo)
23. The Policewoman (Sapinho)
24. The Heart of the Wise Lives in the House of Sorrow (Malešević)

Gotta say most of us, myself included, had v little foresight in choosing some of these, lol. But there were definitely high points!
Latest notable first-time viewings:

* The Sun in a Net / Uher
** The Seashell and the Clergyman / Dulac
The Tales of Beatrix Potter / Mills
* A Flood in Ba'ath Country / Amiralay
Times and Winds / Erdem
Most Beautiful Island / Asensio
* Japanese Girls Never Die / Matsui
* Birth Certificate / Różewicz
Bush Mama / Gerima
** Paris Is Burning / Livingston


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