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Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:23 pm
I don't have the energy to read through the entire discussion again to see if my counterpoint was brought up in the discussion, but even though It's been a while since I've seen it, I was thinking they could've just bought a tent at a store, like one in the city they were in at the beginning. Obviously, you can't build an entire house as it would make too much noise as you brought up in the discussion, but I think there's more options you can choose from. More simpler ones. Again, I wasn't too bothered by this, but I think an argument can definitely be made here.
I wouldn't skip Midsommar just because you didn't like Hereditary; assuming that's your reason, that is. It's still worth watching as it has some areas it nails exceptionally well. I mean, I didn't care for The Seventh Seal, which was the first film I saw from Bergman, but the other films I've seen from him are all really great to perfect.
As I said though, I think not being able to relate to the characters in Midsommar also goes back to the plot holes with the film, meaning that I wouldn't have had that issue if it wasn't for the plot holes which took me out of the film. So, technically, the plot holes are part of what ruined the film as they caused me to have other issues with the film. I think that's an example of plot holes ruining a film as, without them, my issues with the film would be non-existent.
With Hereditary, I admit it. I don't get your criticisms. If your argument is that the film could've used another round of editing and that it's still pretty good in spite of those issues, I can get behind that. I just don't think that what you mentioned is substantial or significant enough to dislike the film. They just don't strike me as major issues as much as minor issues or nitpicks, especially in light of how well-crafted the film is in other areas.
the post where I went into the most detail about why it wouldn't have been practical for them to live next to the waterfall, if you're interested. Anyway, I'm not saying that it's a 100% certainty that I'll never watch Midsommar
, it's just not particularly likely in the near future, considering that I don't have much time these days to watch even movies I'm actually interested in, plus the fact that its critical average on RT is at least 7 points lower than his other movie, which I obviously didn't like in the first place (although I am like you in the sense that, while The Seventh Seal
was my first Bergman, and I didn't think much of it either, I still watched Persona
for the first time last year anyway, and ended up liking it a lot).
At any rate, I feel that your complaint still backs up my theory about plot holes on their own not fundamentally ruining movies on the whole, the key words being "on their own", because it sounds like the thing that hurt that film the most for you was how unrelatable the characters were, which is something that can
be caused by implausible character decisions, but also by having underdeveloped characters, so that's the real fundamental flaw with the film, regardless of which individual factor caused it.
And my complaints about Hereditary
weren't to make the point that it was ruined by any plot holes (because I obviously don't take that stance on any
movie), I made them because, besides it being fun to complain about that movie, they help make my overall point about part of the movie's real crippling flaw, which was how sloppy Aster's fundamental approach to it was, as it felt like a random smorgasbord of genre cliches, images, and setpieces in search of a coherent experience (which he basically already admitted was the case), without any sense of coherency or control to it, and those ignored implications are just a smaller symptom of the film's overall sickness. I didn't even detail all of them, either; what about