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Re: Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai

Post by Rock » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:10 am

I saw Shyam Benegal's Junoon recently. I liked it. I liked the depiction of gender roles and the reversal of power against the colonial/rebellion setting, and some of visuals (from the nightmare sequences) were pretty compelling (although the terrible quality of the transfer hurt them somewhat). I also liked that there was a real sexual menace to Shashi Kapoor's character - the film didn't downplay the rapey-ness of his character or the situation he enforces. I need to see more from Benegal. Aside from this I've only seen his documentary on Satyajit Ray (called, surprisingly, Satyajit Ray), and found it very informative.
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Re: Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai

Post by charulata » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:48 am

haven't seen that one unfortunately but have it bookmarked now. I've only seen Manthan, Mandi, Ankur and Bhumika and remember them all being pretty strong. It's been several years since I watched those first 3 though.
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Re: Jis Desh Mein Ganga Behti Hai

Post by charulata » Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:19 pm

flieger wrote:tamil tropes: amaze-balls, esp. the creepiness

will need to learn tamil to see the remainder of mani's films, i think. in the meantime, will just watch thalapathi on an endless loop.
I always thought Nayakan was better but haven;t seen either of those in years..
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Post by flieger » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:50 pm

charulata wrote: I always thought Nayakan was better but haven;t seen either of those in years..
Nayakan = <3 Too much unfettered Rajini-ness in Thalapathi.
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Post by wigwam » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:08 am

who else is stoked for I Love New Year?
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Post by roujin » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:48 am

probably won't be as good as singh saab the great.
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Post by roujin » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:38 pm

remember flieger
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Post by charulata » Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:45 pm

roujin wrote:remember flieger
every single day :(
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Post by flieger » Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:43 am

Poor Farooq Sheikh. :( Will watch Garm Hava sooner, I promise.
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Post by flieger » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:35 am

yesssssssssss
"elaborate dinner" :D
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Post by charulata » Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:35 am

kindly videotape the interactive dance workshop for our benefit :D
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:06 am

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Ship of Theseus | Anand Gandhi | 2012

Nice enough film. Even went all sort-of Apichatpong-y at the end.
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Haven't seen that on a certificate before, either.
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Post by roujin » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:33 am

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Post by charulata » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:41 am

been meaning to watch that one for a while now.. apochatpongy you say : O?
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:43 am

just briefly boonmee. you'll know it when you see it. (not fish-sex)
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Post by charulata » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:00 am

the lack of fish sex is disappointing. even more disappointing is your absence overall and how that has resulted in me watching zero indian films in 2014. all the blame is on you.
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:06 am

next up: bombay talkies. or dhoom. same diff.
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:12 am

NOT yash chopra
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Post by roujin » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:14 am

i live for the swiss alps
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Post by charulata » Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:16 am

Deewaar forever.
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Post by flieger » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:45 am

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Post by charulata » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:03 am

Have my cousin visiting me this weekend. Haven't seen him in a few years etc. So we rewatched this tonight and cried our hearts out. fliegie, you need to see this ... Farooq and Smita <3

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Post by flieger » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:34 am

am crying too, watching waqt. :fresh:
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Post by flieger » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:32 pm

this :fresh:
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plus these two
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Post by charulata » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:35 pm

I've always thought of Ashok Kumar as this forever old guy... but young Ashok in this is so beautiful.
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Post by charulata » Mon Feb 17, 2014 3:35 pm

More 70s bollywood re-watching with cousin. Rekha goddessness and cutesum Vinod Mehra chest hair <3

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Post by wigwam » Mon Feb 17, 2014 4:38 pm

charu have you ever seen Gharana (1961)? the Bollywood radio show here played the coolest song from it the other day and I wanna see it now
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Post by charulata » Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:07 pm

Aaaages ago but I do know the music from the movie... was it this song by any chance?

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Post by wigwam » Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:36 am

yep that's the one!
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Post by charulata » Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:34 pm

:fresh:
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Post by flieger » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:08 am

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sex! modernity!
plus this sequence :heart:
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:35 am

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Prem Sanyas | Franz Osten | 1925

Land of contrasts and child brides! Enter Gautama Buddha.
plus, petulant intertitles
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Post by flieger » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:18 am

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Prapancha Pash | Franz Osten | 1929

More visually assured than Prem Sanyas, with (now 17yo) Seeta Devi and Himansu Rai back as the central couple. :heart:
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Post by flieger » Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:12 am

"no hero, before or since, has so consistently perched himself upon the fence between the traditional roles of hero and heroine. The non-action heroes before him, whether Rajesh Khanna or Rajendra Kumar, were men who were simply in touch with their emotions, the way poets and drunks are. But Shah Rukh took emasculation to its Everest.”

and there I was, mournfully thinking, "I miss Endhiran. I miss Rajini", when
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B.A. Pass | Ajay Bahl | 2012
Neo noir corruption, emasculation and nihilism. Great stuff.
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All credit to Vidya Balan, to swearing Rani (those fucking eyes), to the Tehelka-reading urban bourgeoisie, and to the pop-radical power of Rang De Basanti. (I already knew that last bit.)
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Post by flieger » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:15 pm

been four days, and cannot get Dhoom Machale and/or Dhoom Again out of my head. just endless gyrations of esha, hrithik and uday.
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Post by roujin » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:19 am

her eyes, yeah.
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Post by charulata » Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:21 am

flieger wrote:been four days, and cannot get Dhoom Machale and/or Dhoom Again out of my head. just endless gyrations of esha, hrithik and uday.
uday :|
and yeah, rani's eyes are everything.
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Ghanchakkar | Raj Kumar Gupta | 2013
Sort of like a cross between a Johnnie To comedy (no Wai Ka-Fai metaphysics, though), and one of those 70s French black comedies I dimly remember. Loved it, obviously. (maybe my fave Indian film for 2013?)
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R... Rajkumar | Prabhu Deva | 2013
Masala Yojimbo, only better because masala. Shahid's dancing much better than Mifune's samurai running. Actually, Shahid's dancing is pretty much better than anyone's around at the moment. Nimble little fucker.
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Post by roujin » Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:16 am

Shahid's great in that movie. Wish it were better.
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:51 am

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Teesri Kasam | Basu Bhattacharya | 1967

God. Close to perfection. That road trip at the start was so good. Just driving and talking and singing and stopping and eating and on and on. 45 minutes was too short. Then, at the fair, the changed gender dynamics. The innocent male gaze of Kapoor replaced by multitudes of men, with an unsettling mix of desire, veneration and predation. Rehman retorts to the local zamindar “In your eyes I am a prostitute. In their eyes, I am a Goddess.” Since it stars Kapoor, we all know what happens in the end. Bless him.

Also, Waheeda. Couldn't help myself. :heart:
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Post by charulata » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:58 am

omg, those waheeda images <33 i remember nothing about that movie. Need to rewatch asap.
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Post by flieger » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:10 am

charulata wrote:omg, those waheeda images <33
subrata mitra can do no wrong :fresh:
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Aarakshan | Prakash Jha | 2011
A mix of pacifist Agneepath with old-style Bollywood social-message tone and pacing. In other words: engaged but broad.
Still, Manoj was egregiously evil.
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Post by flieger » Fri Feb 28, 2014 6:57 am

down to melbourne to see Highway tomorrow. :fresh:

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Post by roujin » Fri Feb 28, 2014 12:53 pm

a true cinephile as always
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