It is currently Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:30 am



Reply to topic  [ 72 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
 The Random Thoughts Thread 
Author Message
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post The Random Thoughts Thread

For when you have something worth sharing on this forum, but it doesn't fit in any of the other pre-existing threads (as you'll see in a moment).

_________________
Letterboxd


Mon May 01, 2017 2:10 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I'll start this off by talking about Youtube clickbate extraordinaires WatchMojo's "top 10 movies with the best action scenes" list, which is as follows:



Honorable Mentions: The Bourne Ultimatum, Dredd, Hard Boiled

#10. The Raid
#9. Die Hard
#8. John Wick
#7. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
#6. Mission Impossible III
#5. Mad Max: Fury Road
#4. Aliens
#3. Skyfall
#2. The Matrix
#1. Terminator 2: Judgement Day


First off, I don't have much of a problem with Bourne Ultimatum being an HM, or with The Raid, Die Hard, Winter Soldier, Fury Road, Aliens, The Matrix, or T2 making the list proper. I would probably rearrange a couple of them around personally, but a couple of differences in rankings is no biggie.

My real complaint is with the rest, starting with something like Dredd even just being an honorable mention, as, besides Ma-Ma having that entire floor mowed down (which isn't even a great action scene for me if I'm being honest, though it is definitely a good one), none of the action in that movie left much of an impression otherwise, slow-motion/psychedelic effects or not. The opening car chase was just okay, and the rest of it was mostly just the Judge mowing down baddies in a rather straightforward, stiff manner, and it was painfully obvious that Karl Urban (or his stuntmen) could barely see/move around in that costume, which really hurts the action. And don't even get me started on that Judge vs.Judge hand-to-hand fight where you can't even tell which one is Dredd because the director insisted he keep his faceplate on the entire time no matter what. Don't get me wrong, despite me being kind of mixed on the overall film, there were good things about Dredd, but the action, for the most part, wasn't one of them.

Besides that, the action in John Wick was too slick, obviously choreographed, and too lacking in a real sense of danger for me to agree with; had they listed the more brutal Chapter 2 instead, I would've had less of an issue (though some of its action was still sometimes too repetitive nonetheless). As for MI3, its action wasn't bad, but I don't remember it being nearly impressive enough to be worthy of the list, while Skyfall, though definitely a strong movie in general, and one of the better Bond movies, didn't have nearly enough memorable action in it to make the list; the appeal of it definitely lay more in the writing, characterizations, and visual style rather the action, and I really wasn't enthralled by any of the action scenes in Skyfall besides the cool "silhouette fight" (and even then, the scene is more impressive for the style in which the action was depicted, rather than the action itself). If they wanted to list any Bond movie for teh action, then Casino Royale would've been a MUCH better choice, IMO.

And finally, how in the fuck is Hard Boiled (or The Killer) not only not #1, but not even on the list proper?I? Woo has so heavily influenced so many other action directors in the past 3+ decades that to not put at least one of his classics on the actual list is a downright crime against humanity. It's obvious from this particular snub (among others) that WatchMojo had a bias towards more recent Hollywood actioners when compiling this list, and weren't really interested in listing the movies with the actual best action, just the ones that their viewers are more likely to have seen. Heck, even if they were only interested in Hollywood Woo, they still should've put Face/Off on the list just so they could say the guy who's possibly the most influential action director of all time is represented by something. Anyway, rant over.

_________________
Letterboxd


Mon May 01, 2017 2:10 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Do you still actively watch Watchmojo? I'm not too big on them. I don't like how Watchmojo has their lists decided by other people. A lot of those people have little knowledge of the history of film and their knowledge doesn't expand much further than the 2000's. It's kind of like IMDb's top 250. Also, they're running out of ideas. I don't find a lot of the videos they produce to be interesting at all.

Cinefix's lists, on the other hand, are superior in every way. They have better variety in their lists (new, old, and foreign films often make their lists), better writing, better editing, and better, well, everything. When I watched my first list by Cinefix, I was instantly blown away and I watched it several more times. They don't upload lists as often as Watchmojo does, but I have no problem with that, because that way, they won't run out of ideas as fast and they'll have more time to come up with interesting topics that they can decide on for a long time.

Here's one of my favorite lists that they've made recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa--gJ412M&t

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Wed May 31, 2017 11:19 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

T2 has one great sequence, don't care for the rest. Mad Max is great. Don't get the others. Aliens is particularly terrible and overrated. The Matrix is influential, so I get it at some level, but it doesn't hold up all that well. Some of the scenes do though. Like I still like Neo and Morpheus' first fight, and Matrix is one of the franchises that at least, theoretically, understands how to frame action in a way that I find agreeable, but it's offensive in other ways (the CGI use being the most glaring and fatal).

_________________
Recent films:

See my latest blog entry: Run the Jewels’ “Close Your Eyes” and Police Brutality

По́мните Катю...


Wed May 31, 2017 2:06 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

So they didnt watch the Raid movies? Cuz Part 1 and 2 had much better action scenes than a bunch of those. I get why some of those made the list but c'mon. Like I get why they included some of the classic films but I still think something like Raiers has better action than Die Hard.


Wed May 31, 2017 2:21 pm
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Do you still actively watch Watchmojo? I'm not too big on them. I don't like how Watchmojo has their lists decided by other people. A lot of those people have little knowledge of the history of film and their knowledge doesn't expand much further than the 2000's. It's kind of like IMDb's top 250. Also, they're running out of ideas. I don't find a lot of the videos they produce to be interesting at all.

Cinefix's lists, on the other hand, are superior in every way. They have better variety in their lists (new, old, and foreign films often make their lists), better writing, better editing, and better, well, everything. When I watched my first list by Cinefix, I was instantly blown away and I watched it several more times. They don't upload lists as often as Watchmojo does, but I have no problem with that, because that way, they won't run out of ideas as fast and they'll have more time to come up with interesting topics that they can decide on for a long time.

Here's one of my favorite lists that they've made recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQa--gJ412M&t
I'm still subscribed to WM, and still occasionally check out some of their videos, but I'll be the first to admit that they're a bit of a mixed bag overall as list creators; too many shitty lists/clickbait mixed in with the cooler lists. Still worth tracking for the occasionally worthwhile content, though. I didn't know they let random people vote on what gets on their list, btw, so that explains why about half of this particular list was so lousy :D And yes, Cinefix's lists are rarer, but all the higher quality for it; I can't remember if I watched that subjectivity list yet, but I hope a certain moment from The Graduate made it.
Izzy Black wrote:
T2 has one great sequence, don't care for the rest. Mad Max is great. Don't get the others. Aliens is particularly terrible and overrated. The Matrix is influential, so I get it at some level, but it doesn't hold up all that well. Some of the scenes do though. Like I still like Neo and Morpheus' first fight, and Matrix is one of the franchises that at least, theoretically, understands how to frame action in a way that I find agreeable, but it's offensive in other ways (the CGI use being the most glaring and fatal).
Let me guess.. do you mean the big rig chase in T2? That one's probably my favorite action scene in that movie, but I've always enjoyed the rest of the stunts in that movie as well, so I approve of it making the list. And yes, I recently watched Fury Road for the 2nd time a couple of days ago, and pretty much all of the action in it held up particularly well; even though it wasn't a car chase, I particularly enjoyed the incredibly frantic, real-looking hand-to-hand fight between Max, Furiosa, Nux, and the "Wives", and all the props involved. Really clever, inventive work right there. Anyway, it's been a while since I've seen The Matrix, but I know I liked most of the action in it (the helicopter sequence!), and I've always enjoyed all of the action in Aliens, especially the last half hour or so which is pretty much nothing BUT action (the loader fight!), so poopoo for you.
Ace wrote:
So they didnt watch the Raid movies? Cuz Part 1 and 2 had much better action scenes than a bunch of those. I get why some of those made the list but c'mon. Like I get why they included some of the classic films but I still think something like Raiers has better action than Die Hard.
Indeed; I mean, the original Raid just barely makes the list, but Skyfall's in the top 3? Get out of here, Mojo. And, while I prefer Raiders overall as a movie to Die Hard, as I feel it has a more memorably distinct personality to it, and I do enjoy its action scenes, it's the adventure part of its particular take on the "action/adventure" genre that made a bigger impression on me, and less so for the actual action in it, as good as that still is. I always appreciated the action in [i]Die Hard[i], not just for being exciting (though that's certainly part of it), but also for how well-balanced it felt; it feels just over-the-top enough to be exhilarating, but not quite so exaggerated so as to seem like a cartoon, and lose complete touch with reality. It doesn't have some bulging, steriod-popping, one-man army Übermensch like Schwarzenegger or Stallone effortlessly mowing down endless waves of mindless, faceless baddies with huge machine guns with bottomless magazines, but is just a schlubby-ass, dad-bod having Bruce Willis facing off against just a dozen mercs in a skyscraper, and pretty much all the stunts are believable enough for us to buy that a guy like McClaine could possibly do all this stuff. I appreciate that.

_________________
Letterboxd


Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:52 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I like T2. However, I don't think that it's anything more than just a well-made action film. It doesn't have many moments which impress me. A lot of people like its ending, but I personally found it to be forced. I've also never been that big on Arnold as an actor. I enjoyed The Terminator a bit more.

Fury Road is great though. I love that movie.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Thu Jun 01, 2017 3:57 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
I like T2. However, I don't think that it's anything more than just a well-made action film. It doesn't have many moments which impress me. A lot of people like its ending, but I personally found it to be forced. I've also never been that big on Arnold as an actor. I enjoyed The Terminator a bit more.

Fury Road is great though. I love that movie.
Sounds like your thoughts on T2/Fury Road could be flipped, and they would basically mirror my own; I think Fury Road's a really good movie, just not quite a great one, but you can learn more about that when I get the chance to finish writing my in-progress review of it. I've always preferred​ T2, but I agree that the original was slightly superior; I miss its dark, gritty vibe, and better yet, no prepubescent Eddie Furlong!

_________________
Letterboxd


Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:34 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Stu wrote:
I've always preferred​ T2, but I agree that the original was slightly superior; I miss its dark, gritty vibe, and better yet, no prepubescent Eddie Furlong!

Interesting. I find T2 to be much darker.

And at the time T2 came out I was just shy of the years when I had two squeaky-voiced lads of that age who called me Dad. Furlong's voice is cute, the way it breaks. When my sons' voices started doing that I realized that it was an experience I would not have had with a girl, had I been lucky enough to have a daughter. Boys' voices go through that, girl's voices don't. I also became aware as I watched a newly-acquired DVD of T2 five or six years later that Furlong's parents (and the parents of other young movie actors) are really lucky to have a movie with their youngster in it, as a memento. Imagine having that kind of detail and attention focused on your kid -- as if it were a very expensive home movie.

In film school I also came to realize that if you know the actors in a film you can never see it the way people who don't know the actors can see it. Because you cannot fully suspend knowledge that the man playing that role, the woman playing that character, are people you have lunch with in real life.

Just some random thoughts! :D

_________________
YTMN's Remake Rematch Thread. Catalog Rounds 1-3
Latest 23 July 2017. Thread COMPLETE 25 May 14 (2d time!)
Round Four complete: BTM Batman -- BCH On the Beach -- BOU La Guerre des Boutons

in progress: 59 to go
BIC Bicycle Thieves/Beijing Bicycle Es1, 4 Rv1 2 DP
BRH Battle Royale/Hunger Games Es1 3 4 Sc Rv1 2
BRN Tom Brown's Schooldays Es 1 2 3 4 Sc Di DP SFX Mu De Rv1 2
DRB Devil's Backbone/Dorm Es1 2 Rv1 2 Sc
HEL Mayor of Hell/Crime School/Hell's Kitchen DP Rv1 Es1
PAI Pinocchio/A. I. Es2 Rv1 DP Mu
SKN Victim/Skin I Live In Es1 2 3 Di Rv1 2
TNS Tingler/Creeps/Slither Rv1 Rv2 Rv3 Es1 3 Sc SFX De Di Mu
TZN Tarzan of the Apes/Tarzan the Ape Man/Greystoke Sc Di DP SFX De Mu Rv1 2 3 Es1 2 3 4 5 7

The Future Unreels

trxbooks.com


Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:41 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

What movie do you guys think is better: Alien or The Thing? Both of these movies appear on my favorites list, but I have The Thing ranked a bit higher.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:54 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
What movie do you guys think is better: Alien or The Thing? Both of these movies appear on my favorites list, but I have The Thing ranked a bit higher.

Man, that is some question!

I don't usually rank movies, because of questions like the questions that this match-up poses. I assume you mean the 1982 film of The Thing.

Aren't they significantly different kinds of stories? Marketing aside, The Thing takes the place of the people it uses, while the Alien kills them in being born. Once a person is face-hugged and chest-bursted he/she is no more. But the insidious Thing from another world transforms itself and them into...something new. Both raise a great deal of tension in the viewer, but with The Thing you never know with whom you are dealing. You never know where the Thing is, but you also don't know who the Thing might be. The Alien is lurking in the dark, and you may not see it until after it is too late. Yet...
I'll just say that I've enjoyed watching both films multiple times. Saw Alien (1979) when it was in the Memphis movie theaters (in the same theater where I had seen 2001: a Space Odyssey, in fact) the Friday night of its first week at the Paramount. I saw The Thing for the first time when I was watching movies I had never seen before that are beloved by audiences, so it was from a DVD. Saw Alien with a lot of people in a big, dark room. Heard someone half-whisper "Forget the damn cat!" at just the right moment to get a much-needed tension-relieving laugh from the audience. Saw The Thing by myself, sitting on the couch in my office, with no one to make any comments aloud.

I think how good a movie is comes from a synthesis of the skill of the movie-makers, and the circumstances under which a viewer watches the film. It isn't as cut-and-dried as "this movie is more skillfully mounted," or any other superlative you might find for it.

Both are five-star movies, but my additional experiential perks from that first viewing makes me favor Alien above The Thing.
I'd be glad to talk this over, though!

_________________
YTMN's Remake Rematch Thread. Catalog Rounds 1-3
Latest 23 July 2017. Thread COMPLETE 25 May 14 (2d time!)
Round Four complete: BTM Batman -- BCH On the Beach -- BOU La Guerre des Boutons

in progress: 59 to go
BIC Bicycle Thieves/Beijing Bicycle Es1, 4 Rv1 2 DP
BRH Battle Royale/Hunger Games Es1 3 4 Sc Rv1 2
BRN Tom Brown's Schooldays Es 1 2 3 4 Sc Di DP SFX Mu De Rv1 2
DRB Devil's Backbone/Dorm Es1 2 Rv1 2 Sc
HEL Mayor of Hell/Crime School/Hell's Kitchen DP Rv1 Es1
PAI Pinocchio/A. I. Es2 Rv1 DP Mu
SKN Victim/Skin I Live In Es1 2 3 Di Rv1 2
TNS Tingler/Creeps/Slither Rv1 Rv2 Rv3 Es1 3 Sc SFX De Di Mu
TZN Tarzan of the Apes/Tarzan the Ape Man/Greystoke Sc Di DP SFX De Mu Rv1 2 3 Es1 2 3 4 5 7

The Future Unreels

trxbooks.com


Sun Jun 04, 2017 7:43 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Spoilers for both Alien and The Thing.

I might as well expand on my opinion. I feel like both movies nail it on suspense. They both have claustrophobic settings where the protagonists are stuck in an isolated area. They also both have terrific creature designs which still look terrifying today and several outstanding scenes (I feel like the defibrillator scene is just as good as the chestburster scene). However, I feel like The Thing has a couple more layers to it. After you think about its ambiguous ending, you start to pick up on a lot of subtlety in the film. Also, the more I watch both films, the more I pick up on reasons for why Childs was likely infected such as the implausibility of his story (it strikes me as odd that he'd run out on his own without telling everyone else) or how he drunk from the beer bottle showing that he didn't care about becoming infected, giving himself away. Both of these are amazing films, but I feel like the subtlety makes The Thing a bit better.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:24 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I've tried and tried and still I fail to see the genius of Charlie Chaplin. I like him just fine, but the stuff he makes sometimes could best be described as twee.


Sun Jun 04, 2017 3:54 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Joss Whedon wrote:
I've tried and tried and still I fail to see the genius of Charlie Chaplin. I like him just fine, but the stuff he makes sometimes could best be described as twee.

It's "twee" on the surface. But that's the point. Dig deeper.

Watch the opening of City Lights a few times. You'll start to get the point.


Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:16 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Eminence Grise wrote:
It's "twee" on the surface. But that's the point. Dig deeper.

Watch the opening of City Lights a few times. You'll start to get the point.


It's worth a shot. Maybe there is something I'm not noticing.


Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:46 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

And it seems to me, although it's been decades since I watched it, that there is an undertone of anger in that sappy sweet The Kid (1921).

_________________
YTMN's Remake Rematch Thread. Catalog Rounds 1-3
Latest 23 July 2017. Thread COMPLETE 25 May 14 (2d time!)
Round Four complete: BTM Batman -- BCH On the Beach -- BOU La Guerre des Boutons

in progress: 59 to go
BIC Bicycle Thieves/Beijing Bicycle Es1, 4 Rv1 2 DP
BRH Battle Royale/Hunger Games Es1 3 4 Sc Rv1 2
BRN Tom Brown's Schooldays Es 1 2 3 4 Sc Di DP SFX Mu De Rv1 2
DRB Devil's Backbone/Dorm Es1 2 Rv1 2 Sc
HEL Mayor of Hell/Crime School/Hell's Kitchen DP Rv1 Es1
PAI Pinocchio/A. I. Es2 Rv1 DP Mu
SKN Victim/Skin I Live In Es1 2 3 Di Rv1 2
TNS Tingler/Creeps/Slither Rv1 Rv2 Rv3 Es1 3 Sc SFX De Di Mu
TZN Tarzan of the Apes/Tarzan the Ape Man/Greystoke Sc Di DP SFX De Mu Rv1 2 3 Es1 2 3 4 5 7

The Future Unreels

trxbooks.com


Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:12 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
What movie do you guys think is better: Alien or The Thing? Both of these movies appear on my favorites list, but I have The Thing ranked a bit higher.
It's been a while since I've seen The Thing, but while I remember thinking it was good, it still had nowhere near the level or stylistic or storytelling precision then Alien did, which is probably still my favorite Horror movie ever. That being said, the "chest" scene in the former film may be even better than the chestburster, if I'm being honest.

_________________
Letterboxd


Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:45 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Joss Whedon wrote:

It's worth a shot. Maybe there is something I'm not noticing.

Chaplin is difficult to figure out, and I don't think I've figured him out. Sometimes I think his takes at the camera after doing something goofy seem to mean, "Well, you're the one who paid money to see me do this." At other times it seems to come not from the actor, but from the character.

And it's a double-layered thing. Chaplin is playing The Little Tramp, but TLT is not always being himself, either! And Chaplin was one of those many-takes to get it right types. So he must have been aiming toward something, even if what he appears to be doing appears to be maudlin, there might be irony or self-criticism underneath what he's up to.

Maybe none of that makes sense.

Anyway, a lot of his films bore me. It's because I'm so far removed from the time in which he made them that the topical humor doesn't come through. But when he waxes into the realm of verisimilitude, like in The Kid, or City Lights, it all simply works. And a lot of what he does is funny in a mime-slapstick way. That usually tickles my funny bone.

_________________
YTMN's Remake Rematch Thread. Catalog Rounds 1-3
Latest 23 July 2017. Thread COMPLETE 25 May 14 (2d time!)
Round Four complete: BTM Batman -- BCH On the Beach -- BOU La Guerre des Boutons

in progress: 59 to go
BIC Bicycle Thieves/Beijing Bicycle Es1, 4 Rv1 2 DP
BRH Battle Royale/Hunger Games Es1 3 4 Sc Rv1 2
BRN Tom Brown's Schooldays Es 1 2 3 4 Sc Di DP SFX Mu De Rv1 2
DRB Devil's Backbone/Dorm Es1 2 Rv1 2 Sc
HEL Mayor of Hell/Crime School/Hell's Kitchen DP Rv1 Es1
PAI Pinocchio/A. I. Es2 Rv1 DP Mu
SKN Victim/Skin I Live In Es1 2 3 Di Rv1 2
TNS Tingler/Creeps/Slither Rv1 Rv2 Rv3 Es1 3 Sc SFX De Di Mu
TZN Tarzan of the Apes/Tarzan the Ape Man/Greystoke Sc Di DP SFX De Mu Rv1 2 3 Es1 2 3 4 5 7

The Future Unreels

trxbooks.com


Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:11 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Gort wrote:
Chaplin is difficult to figure out, and I don't think I've figured him out. Sometimes I think his takes at the camera after doing something goofy seem to mean, "Well, you're the one who paid money to see me do this." At other times it seems to come not from the actor, but from the character.

And it's a double-layered thing. Chaplin is playing The Little Tramp, but TLT is not always being himself, either! And Chaplin was one of those many-takes to get it right types. So he must have been aiming toward something, even if what he appears to be doing appears to be maudlin, there might be irony or self-criticism underneath what he's up to.

Maybe none of that makes sense.

Anyway, a lot of his films bore me. It's because I'm so far removed from the time in which he made them that the topical humor doesn't come through. But when he waxes into the realm of verisimilitude, like in The Kid, or City Lights, it all simply works. And a lot of what he does is funny in a mime-slapstick way. That usually tickles my funny bone.

Like any good or great artist, Chaplin is indeed difficult. And although I mentioned the opening of City Lights to observe, it is not a panacea of Chaplin's scope and thematic intentions throughout his career. However, I think it does well to illustrate where his aims are, and certainly works in concert with his Tramp character, who is perhaps the antipode of the structuralist and bourgeois mentality.

Chaplin was also very self-referential, to be fair. He understood the affect of cinema on the audience as well as any other and often teased his audience as a result. I think that he wanted his audience--just like any other great artist--to be woken up from the illusion that he playfully puts forth. But, naturally, and as you said, he is not without his own sentimentality. He played both sides, and he played them well, and perhaps that's why he is still as relevant as ever.

I don't agree that his films are far removed from us. For anyone who has had passion and desire, Limelight is their elegy. For anyone who feels pressure under an increasingly stuffy modernization, Modern Times is their prescription. And for anyone who knows the absurdity of our self-imposed and perpetuated need for others to give us security and safety, The Great Dictator is our coup. Hell, all you have to do is remove the mustache and place an animal-like wig on him in The Great Dictator and perhaps you'd be as relevant as ever!


Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:57 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

In my opinion, 28 Days Later is the best zombie movie of all time. I even like it more than Romero's Night of the Living Dead. The reason I like it this much is because of its political allegory and character arcs.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:26 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

The Bluray for that is kinda bad tho given they filed it on DV cameras. Only the final sequence is good looking given they filmed it on film. But yes I love that there are a few layers to that. I was pretty burnt out on Zombie movies until they do something different with it like 28 days or Shaun of the Dead. I love that they KNEW that life just continued even after the infection. Too bad we never got a 28 months later.


Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:30 pm
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Ace wrote:
The Bluray for that is kinda bad tho given they filed it on DV cameras. Only the final sequence is good looking given they filmed it on film. But yes I love that there are a few layers to that. I was pretty burnt out on Zombie movies until they do something different with it like 28 days or Shaun of the Dead. I love that they KNEW that life just continued even after the infection. Too bad we never got a 28 months later.

I'll agree with that. This might be a good film to consider releasing on Criterion in the future. I haven't seen Shaun of the Dead, but I've heard great things about it. Is it sort of like Zombieland?

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:59 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
I'll agree with that. This might be a good film to consider releasing on Criterion in the future. I haven't seen Shaun of the Dead, but I've heard great things about it. Is it sort of like Zombieland?
:x :down:

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:00 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I enjoyed Zombieland...

_________________
Letterboxd


Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:20 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
:x :down:

You didn't care for Zombieland?

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:41 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
You didn't care for Zombieland?
I enjoyed Zombieland. If I were presented with the option to "like" or not "like" it, I would choose "like". It's an entertaining film. I can't say that I remember a thing about it, but there is an enormous industry dedicated to producing entertainment for people to consume, and it'd be rather crazy to sit around be so thoroughly unentertained by what is produced. There comes a point, though, where more things are produced, and you tend to forget about the thousands of things that were produced 3 years ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago. Some things last, though. They deserve more than to merely "like" or "dislike" them. But, yes, they're both zombie comedies.

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:45 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Shaun of the Dead is a zombie film that is great and will probably be remembered years from now. Zombieland is good fun but I like it more than I probably should. In short, I kind of agree with Leaves.

_________________
This Is My New Blog. There Are Many Like It But This One Is Mine
Shitty Film Thread
Follow Me On Twitter If You Aren't Doing So Already
The MadMan Reserved 31 Seats
"I think its time we discuss your, uh....philosophy of drug use as it relates to artistic endeavor." -Naked Lunch (1991)


Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:52 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
I enjoyed Zombieland. If I were presented with the option to "like" or not "like" it, I would choose "like". It's an entertaining film. I can't say that I remember a thing about it, but there is an enormous industry dedicated to producing entertainment for people to consume, and it'd be rather crazy to sit around be so thoroughly unentertained by what is produced. There comes a point, though, where more things are produced, and you tend to forget about the thousands of things that were produced 3 years ago, 5 years ago, 10 years ago. Some things last, though. They deserve more than to merely "like" or "dislike" them. But, yes, they're both zombie comedies.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with giving me a sad face and a thumbs down? It seemed like an odd response to my comment. Did you disagree with my statement of 28 Days Later or something?

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:52 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Yeah, but what does that have to do with giving me a sad face and a thumbs down? It seemed like an odd response to my comment. Did you disagree with my statement of 28 Days Later or something?
Fun with language.

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:13 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
Fun with language.

Works for me.

Anyways, I thought Zombieland was pretty good. Shaun of the Dead might be better, but I had a lot of enjoyment while watching Zombieland. It's a pretty good comedy film in my opinion.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:27 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I've been thinking about it lately, and in retrospect, I've had to admit that Get Out was a somewhat disappointing experience, at least, the first 2 acts were. Like I wrote in my original review of it, I still think the final third is really awesome, and made for a great finale, but everything before
Chris finding his "girlfriend"'s secret photo album
was inconsistently engaging at best. Not bad, just not particularly compelling. It's one of those movies where, even if you never saw a trailer or TV spot for it before going in, you still quickly get the impression that this is one of those movie neighborhoods that's hiding some sort of dark secret that the film tries to build up to reveal eventually. The problem is, Jordan Peele was better at the payoff than the setup, as GO just has a lot of scenes of people acting vaguely odd or creepy, that, while not bad, still aren't nearly scary or intriguing enough to get the hooks in me as deep as the movie should've. Still, Peele did definitely show potential as a writer/director here, enough so that I wouldn't say no to checking out his sophomore effort, whatever that turns out to be.

_________________
Letterboxd


Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:36 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

The Tree of Life is, currently, the best film of the 2010's.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:13 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Is it really tho?


Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:16 pm
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
The Tree of Life is, currently, the best film of the 2010's.
By what basis do you make such a statement, and of what importance is it to have made such a statement?

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:49 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
By what basis do you make such a statement, and of what importance is it to have made such a statement?

Here's why I love the film so much. I usually dig ambiguity. This film was no exception. There were several mind-blowing scenes which kept me thinking about them long afterwards, especially its final act. Beneath all of the ambiguity lies a fleshed out character arc which can be seen during Jack's childhood where he's slowly influenced by his father (or nature if you go by the theme of "nature vs. grace"). Some people complained that the movie was preachy, but in my opinion, the preachiness in nullified by the plot structure of the film. On top of that, I didn't feel like Malick was trying to force any of his religious views on me. Also, the cinematography was beautiful to look at. Several months ago, I made the decision that it's the 2nd most beautifully shot film of all time (2001 is the best shot film in my opinion). It's, currently, the only perfect rating I've given to a film from the 2010's.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:58 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Ace wrote:
Is it really tho?

In my opinion, it is.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:04 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I would make the argument that it's The Social Network but that's just me.


Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:35 am
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

I haven't seen The Social Network before, but I've heard good things about it.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:03 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Here's why I love the film so much. I usually dig ambiguity. This film was no exception. There were several mind-blowing scenes which kept me thinking about them long afterwards, especially its final act. Beneath all of the ambiguity lies a fleshed out character arc which can be seen during Jack's childhood where he's slowly influenced by his father (or nature if you go by the theme of "nature vs. grace"). Some people complained that the movie was preachy, but in my opinion, the preachiness in nullified by the plot structure of the film. On top of that, I didn't feel like Malick was trying to force any of his religious views on me. Also, the cinematography was beautiful to look at. Several months ago, I made the decision that it's the 2nd most beautifully shot film of all time (2001 is the best shot film in my opinion). It's, currently, the only perfect rating I've given to a film from the 2010's.
So it's just that you look me that film more than the others you've seen, and don't dislike it for some reasons that others do? That doesn't seem like a very important distinction, to me. Even if you saw only terrible films, one be would be the best, no?

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:15 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
So it's just that you look me that film more than the others you've seen, and don't dislike it for some reasons that others do? That doesn't seem like a very important distinction, to me. Even if you saw only terrible films, one be would be the best, no?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "look me that film". Could you elaborate on what that means? As for when I stated why I disagree with the "preachiness" complaint, that was a minor part of my comment. Most of my comment consisted on why I feel like the film is complex along with a character arc and amazing cinematography. Also, I've seen a lot of films from the 2010's which I have a strong opinion on. However, I feel like this is the best film of what I've seen so far for reasons I explained above.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:41 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Leaves is fucking with you. Best not to mind him.


Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:00 am
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Ace wrote:
Leaves is fucking with you. Best not to mind him.

Does he joke around with people often?

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:01 am
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

All the time.


Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:29 am
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
Does he joke around with people often?
Yes, I do.

This would be a terrible joke. The strange phrasing above was due to my phone having a spasm.

I was just wondering why you thought that stating that The Tree of Life is the best film of the decade was worth sharing. I feel that it's hard to make such statements given that you surely haven't seen everything, and that people's tastes differ so dramatically.

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to make such a statement, and I was wondering why you felt not only that the film was good, but that it deserved a much higher-level sentiment. I'm still not sure - I get that you like it, but I don't know where the broader statement comes from, unless all you're saying is, "It's my favorite of the things I've seen."

Doesn't seem like a joke to me.

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:45 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

It's hard to pay attention when I keep seeing boobs hump the lower frame


Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:09 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
Yes, I do.

This would be a terrible joke. The strange phrasing above was due to my phone having a spasm.

I was just wondering why you thought that stating that The Tree of Life is the best film of the decade was worth sharing. I feel that it's hard to make such statements given that you surely haven't seen everything, and that people's tastes differ so dramatically.

I don't think it makes a lot of sense to make such a statement, and I was wondering why you felt not only that the film was good, but that it deserved a much higher-level sentiment. I'm still not sure - I get that you like it, but I don't know where the broader statement comes from, unless all you're saying is, "It's my favorite of the things I've seen."

Doesn't seem like a joke to me.

This thread is on random thoughts, so since I finished reviewing one of Malick's films, I decided to post a random thought I have about one of Malick's other films. That's why I wrote my comment. Anyways, you don't have to see every film of a particular decade to make a statement like that. It's obvious that all I'm saying is "Of what I've see so far, this is currently, the best film of the decade." If I see a film from this decade in the future which I think is better, I'll change my opinion. Besides, if you go by that, you could argue that all "Greatest Movies of All Time" lists are invalid since the people who vote on them haven't seen every single film in existence. As for tastes, I'm not acting like my statement is a fact. It's my own subjective opinion that The Tree of Life is the best film of the decade.

What do you mean by a broader statement? My judgment of how great films are is based on a number of things such as how compelling they are, how many layers they have/their deeper meaning, etc. I already elaborated on what I like about it.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:20 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
This thread is on random thoughts, so since I finished reviewing one of Malick's films, I decided to post a random thought I have about one of Malick's other films. That's why I wrote my comment. Anyways, you don't have to see every film of a particular decade to make a statement like that. It's obvious that all I'm saying is "Of what I've see so far, this is currently, the best film of the decade." If I see a film from this decade in the future which I think is better, I'll change my opinion. Besides, if you go by that, you could argue that all "Greatest Movies of All Time" lists are invalid since the people who vote on them haven't seen every single film in existence. As for tastes, I'm not acting like my statement is a fact. It's my own subjective opinion that The Tree of Life is the best film of the decade.

What do you mean by a broader statement? My judgment of how great films are is based on a number of things such as how compelling they are, how many layers they have/their deeper meaning, etc. I already elaborated on what I like about it.
I definitely think that labeling a consensus list as "Greatest _______ of All Time" is a silly idea. I also think that saying "_________ is the best film of the decade" is also silly. However, I could understand the latter more if there was something special about it to you - opened your mind to something, pioneered a new way of filmmaking, etc., although it could certainly be explained more clearly. That's exactly what my initial question was: Why did you say it, and did it mean anything special, or just "I like this film better than the other ones". That's it, and that's what the questions were trying to ask. And I think you answered, so it all worked out. Not sure what Ace was reading. I never am.

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:44 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

LEAVES wrote:
I definitely think that labeling a consensus list as "Greatest _______ of All Time" is a silly idea. I also think that saying "_________ is the best film of the decade" is also silly. However, I could understand the latter more if there was something special about it to you - opened your mind to something, pioneered a new way of filmmaking, etc., although it could certainly be explained more clearly. That's exactly what my initial question was: Why did you say it, and did it mean anything special, or just "I like this film better than the other ones". That's it, and that's what the questions were trying to ask. And I think you answered, so it all worked out. Not sure what Ace was reading. I never am.

I agree that if you make a claim regarding anything's greatness, it's good to back it up. Just to clarify though, I always try to back up my opinion when I watch films. I often write reviews of them where I tackle them from different angles and I also like reading critical essays to see what other people think of them.

_________________
"I don't like your jerk off name, I don't like your jerk off face, I don't like your jerk off behavior, and I don't like you...jerk off."

-The Big Lebowski (1998)


Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:04 pm
Profile
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

What leaves wants you to, is to write an essay. Multiple pages. Properly cited. About why you think that.


Fri Jul 07, 2017 2:38 pm
Profile YIM
User avatar
Reply with quote
Post Re: The Random Thoughts Thread

Popcorn Reviews wrote:
I agree that if you make a claim regarding anything's greatness, it's good to back it up. Just to clarify though, I always try to back up my opinion when I watch films. I often write reviews of them where I tackle them from different angles and I also like reading critical essays to see what other people think of them.
I would say there's a difference between appreciating something and claiming that it's something more than merely your preferences, something to which the word "best" or "greatest" would be more accurate. I do think that there are works of art that can be more meaningful or impactful than merely what one prefers - an easy example would be to step outside of the realm of aesthetics and say that a philosophically insightful film that influences culture in a meaningful way could be a "great" film even if you don't necessarily appreciate a lot about it. In this way "Best" takes on a meaning greater than mere "preference" or "favorite". The same could be true within an aesthetic context, but it's certainly a more difficult thing to parse. With Malick, the philosophical angle is obvious, so the opaque use of "best" implied the possibility of some unstated subtext. I think that's an interesting conversation... but not so much the "my favorite of what I've seen so far." In that way I care far less about whether or not you "back up your opinion", I'm more interested in that I "understand what you mean". Contrary to Ace's post, of course, but, well, again...

_________________
LEAVES come from TREES
Retired


Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:29 pm
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 72 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.
Designed by STSoftware.