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For this class trip, we'll be traveling next door to Germany's old Communist friend, Poland. Andrzej Munk is most widely known for his film Passenger, which he didn't get to finish before dying in a car crash during production. A short synopsis:

The story is an odyssey of a little man through Poland of 1930 to 1950. It shows his attempts to cope with a changing world which seems to have no place for him. He has no consciousness of any kind but is always on the verge of turning into a more coherent human being, only to be slapped down. And a few screencaps from KG:

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Since I started this a bit late, we're going to have until Monday, the 13th to watch this, then discussion will begin.


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#1 Distant Journey (1949, Radok) (snapper)
#2 Nanami: The Inferno of First Love (1968, Hani) (Das)
#3 The Policewoman (2003, Sapinho) (charulata)
#4 Freeze, Die, Come to Life! (1989, Kanevsky) (Bandy Greensacks)
#5 The Perfume of the Lady in Black (1974, Barilli) (Trip)
#6 Weddings and Babies (1958, Engel) (snapper)
#7 The Man with Three Coffins (1987, Lee) (Notes from Underground)
#8 Malina (1991, Schroeter) (Shieldmaiden)

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Mon May 06, 2013 4:59 pm
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I'll edit in the links to past class trip threads in a moment. Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the first straight comedy chosen?

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:00 pm
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If this is on the 18th I'll be able to make it

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:05 pm
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If this is on the 18th I'll be able to make it


Presumably, the discussion would extend to around the 20th, so yeah, you could get in.

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:07 pm
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I get new internet on the 16th, cant afford to download anything right no... still need to watch Malina too

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malina is irrelevant now

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:17 pm
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Oh, I'm interested in Munk. Ok.

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trip's on board

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:19 pm
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Me, please.

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Mon May 06, 2013 5:29 pm
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I'm in.

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you WOULD

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It would be, quote-unquote, "bad luck" not to participate

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My final exam grades are due on the 13th. So I should be able to watch it right after and (hopefully) join the discussion.

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Mon May 06, 2013 8:52 pm
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hey, guys....fuck the dates

fuck em

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Oh, and Malina is definitely not irrelevant. I'll talk about it any time. <3

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IT'S IRRELEVANT NOW, MAIDEN

Geez, move on already.

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It would be, quote-unquote, "bad luck" not to participate

Good stuff, good stuff.

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Tue May 07, 2013 4:22 pm
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Upload this somewhere so I don't have to further destroy my KG ratio

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it's 700mb don't be a cunt

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Tue May 07, 2013 4:26 pm
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Give me all the bonus

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how will you earn it

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Oooh, I realize I've seen Man on the Tracks from this guy! Was quite good. Now more excited for this trip than before.


Tue May 07, 2013 4:30 pm
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you better be

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Earning things is not my thing

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then getting bonus is not your thing

sick burn

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you have a ratio of .989 and you're worried about 700 mb

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Because for some reason it's impossible for me to seed anything on KG, and I've never been below 1.00 on any tracker

I'M SCARED

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Ah, a film as subversive art film, I will use the oppurtunity to watch it now


Wed May 08, 2013 4:02 am
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Ok, don't have broadband so will have to sit this one out :(

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good didn't want you to play anyway

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B-Side wrote:
it's 700mb don't be a cunt

Any idea if it's worth watching the upgraded MKV version on PTP, instead?

EDIT - Never mind, was looking at the wrong torrent.

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hey, guys....fuck the dates

fuck em

Agreed.

So, immediately after watching this the foremost thing that struck me was Munk's wonderful, often striking use of mise-en-scène. Particularly, the crafty ways he chooses to frame his bumbling, Keaton-esque protagonist, Jan. Firstly, in a move that adds to the surreal, comedic nature of the film, the director often has his character turn to the camera in the foreground of a deep composition, while other characters continue their business in the backround. It's a well-worn technique, usually used to - quite literally - bring the audience closer to the character, whereas here it serves almost exclusively as a means to dwarf the character: to show how small and feckless he is when placed in a larger context. Jan is little but a pawn, not just in the eyes and hands of the powers that be but also to history itself. As Julius Schartz Fackler concludes in his own analysis of Bad Luck, Munk's framing of his protagonist in this manner makes "outside factors appear imposing and threaten to either contain or consume him."

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i'm sure you non-americans weren't let out of the labor camps or lycees until you were eligible for the dole, but Class Trips are meant to be taken TOGETHER en masse all to the same place at the same time, some sneak away and smoke cigs, some brown-nose the teacher, BUT EVERYONE'S ON THE FUCKING BUS THAT MORNING!!! this early and late bullshit makes these threads no different than any other boring come-as-you-are nonsense

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Fri May 10, 2013 2:56 am
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Yeah, in that case I'm out.

I won't have time this weekend and early next week to contribute, unfortunately.

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Fri May 10, 2013 3:33 am
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you're out? you already participated tho... :?


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you're out? you already participated tho... :?

Out of further discussion, if indeed we're not allowed to mention the film until next week.

I'll have less time from Monday, and would much rather talk about it now while it's fresh in the mind.

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Fri May 10, 2013 3:58 am
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oh i dont think im the actual rulemaker, but who are you going to discuss it with now if no one watches it til saturday or whenever it's supposed to be watched?


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oh i dont think im the actual rulemaker, but who are you going to discuss it with now if no one watches it til saturday or whenever it's supposed to be watched?

Well, perhaps no one, but I'd rather post something now, before it all seeps away.

If you guys think it's best to set and adhere to a rigid start date, wouldn't it be best to let the group decide that date?

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If you can't post on the date most people will be posting, I don't see a problem with doing it now so people can at least see how you responded to the film

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Good to hear.

How about everyone else, what's the consensus on starting early?

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Fri May 10, 2013 5:38 pm
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It's my trip and I don't give a shit. People have lives and time restraints. No reason they can't participate on their own time.

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:up:

I think it's good to have a loose start date/window, but I'd rather watch and comment on the film while I can than wait until a particular date and find that I no longer have the time for it.

Also, it's taken me 5 days since downloading the film to watch it, so it's not all that early.

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Tell me about Barbara Lass, Jedi. Tell my about my Jowita.

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JediMoonShyne wrote:
How about everyone else, what's the consensus on starting early?
I'm a fan of the target date for discussion, but I have no problem with flexibility if it means more people can participate.

I won't be able to watch this one until Sunday, though. So I'll weigh in on Monday.

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Jedi's screengrabs and what I glanced of his blurb make this seem really boring, plus I have a life and time constraints on the date selected and all dates in proximity, so i'll sit this one out


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So, you won't be ON THE FUCKING BUS THAT MORNING?

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you and me are sneaking into the city for the Faith No More concert, our parents hopefully won't call each other :shifty:


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Make it The Dillinger Escape Plan and you're on.

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Kayden Kross wrote:
Tell me about Barbara Lass, Jedi. Tell my about my Jowita.

I have no idea who that is.

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